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Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

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Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by Guest on Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:34 pm

Aku pernah duk sembang ngan lecturer fakulti aku n staff asrama, diorang komen student2 UMP skang ni dh semakin manja.

Antara yg aku still ingat la:
1. Student2 macam tak kisah pun pasal akademik, mcm takde matlamat masuk UMP. Semua sibuk ngan urusan len (terutama skali berkaitan internet). Projek, tutorial, assignment tak bergerak selagi tak push.

2. Dari segi pendaftaran subjek masa awal sem. Mesti kene remind byk kali. Ramai nak daftar last minute. Bila kene denda, ngamuk, soft skill entah ke mana.

3. Penasihat Akademik ramai tak amik tau. Padahal PA ni la tmpt rujukan kita. Kalu ada masalah akademik, tak ramai amik peluang gi jumpa PA untuk tanya pendapat n sbgnya. PA plak yg terpaksa cari students kalu students ada mslh.

4. Kalu hal berkaitan meeting, gotong royong n len2, kene push banyak kali baru gerak. Tu pun gerak sikit2 je. Mcm contoh meeting KK2 aritu (emarem).

5. Kalu nak compare students skang ngan senior2 dulu. Jauh beza dari segi minat, usaha n semangat dalam buat keje atau aktiviti. Dulu kemudahan sukan tak cukup, internet tak ada, fasiliti tak cukup, lecturer pun baru2 belaka, tapi senior kita tak banyak komen, buat kerja lebih dari bercakap. Students skang cakap (komen) lebih, buat kerja kurang.

6. Students dulu tak ada masalah ngan peraturan2 universiti, kalau ada pun sikit2 je. Students dulu bagi komen skali bagi kaedah penyelesaian. Tapi skang banyak plak masalah. Banyak komen saja (emosi), kaedah penyelesaian tak ada.

n byk lagi la yg aku dengar n korang pun leh nampak ada juga la betulnya apa diorang kata. Mungkin ada tak betul jugak. Tapi aku rasa tak semua la. Apa komen korang?

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by Aria on Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:41 pm

huhu cam x caya jer...staf kite pon kualiti rendah gak....kalo nak cakap pasal staf ump kite mmg nak krokkkk ptuiiii la....alamak....terkasar bahasa.....kite nengok pendapat orang kat bawah nie dulu eh....

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by aku la????? on Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:33 pm

bagi aku ada betol dan ada slh..
aku nk bg pndapat sal PA..
igt smue PA bgus ke utk tmpt cite mslh??
klu PA 2 leh tlng kita dh lme stdnt pegi..
cm PA aku dhla nk jmpe pon ssh..
ps2 dia pon cam selmbe je..

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by asuramaru on Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:45 pm

mungkin betul....
mungkin tak....
for certain2 parts aku rasa memang betul kot...

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by aku la????? on Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:47 pm

ko rse ape yang xbtol ttng statemnt 2 asu??

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by fillah88 on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:22 am

aku rs kita sama2 salah...
student ngan xde smangat nak blaja(certain org la)...
nak kena layan macam bdak2 skolah plak 2...(paksa wat tutorial)

tp staff pon 2x5...
x mesra student lansung(pak guard klu sound orang xleh nak lembut2 skit,dah la gi jerkah depan muka)
aku klu pas kelas p lepak warung keluarga,belambok staff yang dok lepak2 skali.sedangkan ms 2 time keje...cmne diorg wat keje nie??
klu lecturer tkpelah,xde klas diorg leh kuar je,de klas kompem kena ngajo,yang staff len tu???

dengan kata len...kita sama2 berubah...

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by aku la????? on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:46 am

btol2..tapi bg aku stdnt hilng smgt bile tgk staf cmne..
tgk r mule2 dtng..smue smangat je..
bile kena ngn satf2 kat cini smue jadi hlang smngt dh..

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by suburbanzero on Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:31 am

ape la salah menyalahkan org nii...ish3...cermin diri sendiri dlu la...hehe ;)
kite kene tolerate arr kn sbenanye...barulah sinergi terbentuk :)

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by oreobai on Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:29 am

aah.. btol..btol..btol..
aku rase kite sebagai student pon kne de perubahan gak. same2 gerakkan UMP nih. staf pon 1 hal, bnyak sngt prosedur, mulut pon bleh tahan gak (sesetengah staff). pepahal pon, majulah student utk gambang..

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by asuramaru on Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:32 am

fuyoooh....
bekas MPP kita dah join forum la....
welcome bro JJ....

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Post by yantoi on Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:16 am

sbg siswa university yg berjaya, jgn jadikn keburukan org lain sbg panduan utk kite wat keburukan kite...

kalu student tu dpt markah rendah dlm test/exam, slalu diorg akn kate gni; "ala, bkn aku je dpt markah rendah ramai lg yg lebih rendah dr aku" xpn gni; "si joyah tu, siap fail lg paper ni lepak je die..kite yg dpt cukup mkn ni ber syukur la" (cik toi pn kadang2 berfikiran begini)... penah x kite terfikir, nape kite x bandingkn dgn student yg berjaya, yg dpt markah tinggi... tepuk dada, tnye la akal kite...

sikap slalu menunding jari ni pn satu penyakit di kalangan student...bkn student ump jer... kalu exam dpt markah teruk, salah kn lecturer ( cik toi tgh blame diri sendiri ni )... knp student tu xtunding jari kt diri sndiri ...kalu da tau lecturer tu xreti ajar, nape xrefer pd lecturer lain??? muhasabah la diri dl, br blh slahkn org lain...

kes kene sound dgn staff especially pak guard... korg rase dorg giler ke, tetibe nk sound2 org??? cik toi akui kadang2 dorg ni kurang sopan skit, tp cube pikir dr perspektif lain... xkn dorg nk marah2 kalu xde sebab kn??? kaji dl kesilapan diri, br la blh nk bersuara...


korg sume pasan x, kalu kite pk2 kn... semua kesilapan/keburukan/kelemahan yg kite refer pd org lain sbrnyer akn berbalik pd diri kite... at last, kite sbnrnye yg kene mengkaji kesilpn/ kelemahan/ keburukan diri sndiri... ni smua cik toi berpesan pd diri sndiri, xlebih dr tu...

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Post by zicron21ck on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:11 pm

benda ni malas aku nak bagi lebih lanjut... semua ada kesilapan masing2.... kalau kita imbas banyak benda mesti ada silap pelajar, dan juga staff itu sendiri...

bak kata suburbanzero(masih pakai lagi ke jamil.... hehehe) kita kene bertolak ansur....

yang kes kene sound tu, kalau nak marah tak yah la nak mengamuk ke, jerkah ke apa2 ke, just bagi nasihat.... kalau secara berlembut, boleh terima punya.... kalau marah melampau, tu yang pelajar boleh memberontak.... biasa api dengan api....

jadi guna 'cermin' tu.... kalau takde salah/silap, baru boleh tegur secara berhemah dan bagi cadangan sekali kalau ada.....

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Post by felix on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:55 pm

asuramaru wrote:fuyoooh....
bekas MPP kita dah join forum la....
welcome bro JJ....


sape bekas mpp???
nk tau gak...
huhu...

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Post by suburbanzero on Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:33 pm

zicron21ck wrote:benda ni malas aku nak bagi lebih lanjut... semua ada kesilapan masing2.... kalau kita imbas banyak benda mesti ada silap pelajar, dan juga staff itu sendiri...

bak kata suburbanzero(masih pakai lagi ke jamil.... hehehe) kita kene bertolak ansur....

yang kes kene sound tu, kalau nak marah tak yah la nak mengamuk ke, jerkah ke apa2 ke, just bagi nasihat.... kalau secara berlembut, boleh terima punya.... kalau marah melampau, tu yang pelajar boleh memberontak.... biasa api dengan api....

jadi guna 'cermin' tu.... kalau takde salah/silap, baru boleh tegur secara berhemah dan bagi cadangan sekali kalau ada.....


bagus skali kata2 mu itu zick...tepuk dada, tny iman :)

off topic : ape maksud ko zick "masih pakai lagi ke jamil"???

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Re: Student UMP Manja?? Betul Ke?

Post by rowanlim on Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:21 pm

This is really the worst time for me to read such a topic.

I'll be tearing into this issue ASAP as soon as I've blown off enough steam. I agree that UMP students now are really...sigh. Disappointing.

Hang in there while I come up with a detailed written piece about this matter.

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