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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by aku la????? on Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:06 pm

bnykla ko pmye inisiatif..ko igt bdak2 xamik inisiatif ke..
ko igt smue org bijak cerdik mcm ko ke..aku dh da mmbe cm2..
mcm2 usaha last2 xdpt pon reslt gmpak..hbs dia xda wat inisiatif ke..
ko jgn anggp smue mnusia ni sme mcm ko..taula band 5 muet..
msuk mtrik ari 2 pon lek je blaja math sc dlm bi..npe????
sbb sblm ni dh phm..cme trnslte blik je..ni xtau pe bnda dah blja bi..
kat u pon dh blaja dlm bi..xcukup lg ke??dah da care lbh snng nk wat cre ssh..xda pekdah la oi..ko ckp biar pmbelajaran dr awal..
2 bi ajr dr tadika lg..ke ko tadika kt luar negara??
blja la bi biar pndai dulu..bru leh blaja bnda lasen..
biar phm dulu bru leh trnslte..ko lak pusing2 psl jtuh mrtbt bm..
da ke forumer len sntuh psl 2..xda lak..
ps2 ko cakap sal nk present..wei klu xpndai bi jus pndai math ngn sc dlm bi je xdpt present..klu mmg bi dh lancar lek je present..
igt perkataan je..yg xleh present 2 sbb bnda2 len..
xreti lg cr2 public speaking 2..dorg msih malu..
klu dah blur tkut mse nk present bjak mne pon xleh wat..
xda mkna bab2 present ni..klu nk bankang pon bagkang la elok2..
nk bold la tulisan..xperlu smue 2..
ps2 ckp nk bangga ngn perkataan pnjm..ape bnda bangga lak 2???
bile lak dak2 ni berbangga..bnyk bnda aku nk ckp tp mls..

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by faiz_0586 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:59 pm

aku la????? wrote:bnykla ko pmye inisiatif..ko igt bdak2 xamik inisiatif ke..
ko igt smue org bijak cerdik mcm ko ke..aku dh da mmbe cm2..
mcm2 usaha last2 xdpt pon reslt gmpak..hbs dia xda wat inisiatif ke..
ko jgn anggp smue mnusia ni sme mcm ko..taula band 5 muet..
msuk mtrik ari 2 pon lek je blaja math sc dlm bi..npe????
sbb sblm ni dh phm..cme trnslte blik je..ni xtau pe bnda dah blja bi..
kat u pon dh blaja dlm bi..xcukup lg ke??dah da care lbh snng nk wat cre ssh..xda pekdah la oi..ko ckp biar pmbelajaran dr awal..
2 bi ajr dr tadika lg..ke ko tadika kt luar negara??
blja la bi biar pndai dulu..bru leh blaja bnda lasen..
biar phm dulu bru leh trnslte..ko lak pusing2 psl jtuh mrtbt bm..
da ke forumer len sntuh psl 2..xda lak..
ps2 ko cakap sal nk present..wei klu xpndai bi jus pndai math ngn sc dlm bi je xdpt present..klu mmg bi dh lancar lek je present..
igt perkataan je..yg xleh present 2 sbb bnda2 len..
xreti lg cr2 public speaking 2..dorg msih malu..
klu dah blur tkut mse nk present bjak mne pon xleh wat..
xda mkna bab2 present ni..klu nk bankang pon bagkang la elok2..
nk bold la tulisan..xperlu smue 2..
ps2 ckp nk bangga ngn perkataan pnjm..ape bnda bangga lak 2???
bile lak dak2 ni berbangga..bnyk bnda aku nk ckp tp mls..


inisiatif? banyakla ko nye banyakla inisiatif. klu ade inisiatif x kan xleh nk paham langsung. soalnya nk atau xnak je. dn nampak sgt ko ngan kawan ko tuh mmg x nk. klu xleh nk belajar dlm BI, amek shortcut la. macam kes rowanlim kt section FKKSA ari tuh, sbb ade manusia2 tuh yg xpaham medium of instruction dlm BI, satu kelas tutorial tuh ditukar ke BM. jd, kat universiti2 malaysia neh belajar sumer subjek dlm BI ke? sdp bunyi. jgn ingat aku bukan dr local U, aku xtaw langsung ape kes kat local U. aku dgr materials dlm BI, tp explain dlm BM. pastuh bile jawab soalan dlm BI, tunggang-langgang. ape jadahnya belajar dlm BI mase kat U? dh sekolah rendah pn xnak, neh plak kat U? ko nk kelentong aku ke? aku xpusing2 psl jatuh martabat BM. ade aku ckp forumers sini ckp psl jatuh martabat BM? aku ckp yg bangkang dn tunjuk perasaan ari tuh. dn yg sokong kt sini lebih kurang je. org macam ko ade ckp ke x, lantak ko aa. owh, ape sbb malu? sbb xdpt nak ckp dlm BI. cuba pk, yg bleh dgn confidentnya present tuh siap bleh merapu lg sbbnya ckp melayu. bile dlm BI, mestilar malu sbb tak reti nk kecek, takut org tertawakan english die. ko ckp xde maknenya bab2 present neh? adakah ko salah seorang dr kelompok yg xtaw nk present dlm BI? sbb tuh xde makne bagi ko? ke sbb belajar BI xde makne utk ko? klu budak2 neh xberbangga, masakan bleh kuar pemikiran nk translate ke BM sumer materials dlm BI kat dunia neh? owh mayb tuh bukan bangga, tp patriotik. semangat nasionalisme.

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by rowanlim on Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:43 pm

This is a good discussion.

@xzrieups125:
PPSMI diteruskan = cekgu2 sains ngn math mmg serabut kepale nk ajr ank murid diorg dlm english lebey2 lg skola luar bandar...
PPSMI dimansuhkan = cekgu english pulak yg pening kepale cmne nk meningkatkn prestasi english di kalangan student...


Yang mana you nak pilih? Yang mana ada effect yang lebih positif?

@MusTang:
baru xsmpai 3 tahun dah kata fail. wat de fak?

Exactly. No proper justification. Whatever they've been telling us in the news is pure BS.

I don't believe that the martabat of BM can be upheld by ending PPSMI. We can improve the BM subject by adding more literature etc. The main idea of BM is to connect the different races in Malaysia. It doesn't belong to the Malays alone. Let's be fair. Hijacking words from BI to BM doesn't show any development. Words like "bajet" shows how much even BM depends on BI.

Consider what we've all discussed & see all view points. I want me & my children & future Malaysians to be marketable on the global stage. We can't do that without BI.

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by zicron21ck on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:26 pm

benda ni banyak faktor yang perlu di ambil kira.... kekurangan pengetahuan disebabkan ketidakfahaman perkataan didalam sains dan matematik boleh menimbulkan kekurangan pada pelajar yang level kelas akhir....bayangkan setiap tahun, mereka terpaksa bertukar kelas(turun kelas=kebelakang lagi) dan menyebabkan jurang antara pelajar bijak dengan biasa semakin besar....

jadi cadangan paling bernas ialah mengadaptasikan program ini bermula pada tingkatan 4 dan keatas...

isu peminjaman perkataan.... aku tekankan, dalam dunia ni semua meminjam.....habis cerita

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by aku la????? on Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:15 pm

faiz_0586 wrote:
aku la????? wrote:bnykla ko pmye inisiatif..ko igt bdak2 xamik inisiatif ke..
ko igt smue org bijak cerdik mcm ko ke..aku dh da mmbe cm2..
mcm2 usaha last2 xdpt pon reslt gmpak..hbs dia xda wat inisiatif ke..
ko jgn anggp smue mnusia ni sme mcm ko..taula band 5 muet..
msuk mtrik ari 2 pon lek je blaja math sc dlm bi..npe????
sbb sblm ni dh phm..cme trnslte blik je..ni xtau pe bnda dah blja bi..
kat u pon dh blaja dlm bi..xcukup lg ke??dah da care lbh snng nk wat cre ssh..xda pekdah la oi..ko ckp biar pmbelajaran dr awal..
2 bi ajr dr tadika lg..ke ko tadika kt luar negara??
blja la bi biar pndai dulu..bru leh blaja bnda lasen..
biar phm dulu bru leh trnslte..ko lak pusing2 psl jtuh mrtbt bm..
da ke forumer len sntuh psl 2..xda lak..
ps2 ko cakap sal nk present..wei klu xpndai bi jus pndai math ngn sc dlm bi je xdpt present..klu mmg bi dh lancar lek je present..
igt perkataan je..yg xleh present 2 sbb bnda2 len..
xreti lg cr2 public speaking 2..dorg msih malu..
klu dah blur tkut mse nk present bjak mne pon xleh wat..
xda mkna bab2 present ni..klu nk bankang pon bagkang la elok2..
nk bold la tulisan..xperlu smue 2..
ps2 ckp nk bangga ngn perkataan pnjm..ape bnda bangga lak 2???
bile lak dak2 ni berbangga..bnyk bnda aku nk ckp tp mls..


inisiatif? banyakla ko nye banyakla inisiatif. klu ade inisiatif x kan xleh nk paham langsung. soalnya nk atau xnak je. dn nampak sgt ko ngan kawan ko tuh mmg x nk. klu xleh nk belajar dlm BI, amek shortcut la. macam kes rowanlim kt section FKKSA ari tuh, sbb ade manusia2 tuh yg xpaham medium of instruction dlm BI, satu kelas tutorial tuh ditukar ke BM. jd, kat universiti2 malaysia neh belajar sumer subjek dlm BI ke? sdp bunyi. jgn ingat aku bukan dr local U, aku xtaw langsung ape kes kat local U. aku dgr materials dlm BI, tp explain dlm BM. pastuh bile jawab soalan dlm BI, tunggang-langgang. ape jadahnya belajar dlm BI mase kat U? dh sekolah rendah pn xnak, neh plak kat U? ko nk kelentong aku ke? aku xpusing2 psl jatuh martabat BM. ade aku ckp forumers sini ckp psl jatuh martabat BM? aku ckp yg bangkang dn tunjuk perasaan ari tuh. dn yg sokong kt sini lebih kurang je. org macam ko ade ckp ke x, lantak ko aa. owh, ape sbb malu? sbb xdpt nak ckp dlm BI. cuba pk, yg bleh dgn confidentnya present tuh siap bleh merapu lg sbbnya ckp melayu. bile dlm BI, mestilar malu sbb tak reti nk kecek, takut org tertawakan english die. ko ckp xde maknenya bab2 present neh? adakah ko salah seorang dr kelompok yg xtaw nk present dlm BI? sbb tuh xde makne bagi ko? ke sbb belajar BI xde makne utk ko? klu budak2 neh xberbangga, masakan bleh kuar pemikiran nk translate ke BM sumer materials dlm BI kat dunia neh? owh mayb tuh bukan bangga, tp patriotik. semangat nasionalisme.



ko ni phm x aku tulis mmbe aku dah cube mcm2..ke ko ni xpndai bace bm..
ape yg ko nk perjuangkn sebenarnye ni..aku xphm..
klu ko ckp kat u pon lec ajr dlm bm hbis kt sekolah ajr dlm bi ke..
same je aku tgk..org ckp bek2 ko nk marah2..nk kutuk2..pehal??
org bg pndapat tp ko mesti nk bls balik..bls plak org baca len mkna..
bkn smue org pndai bi leh ckp..da je yg pndai mnulis tp xleh nk ckp..
ko sedap r ckp cm2 kat org lain..nk kecek ko buleh mugo kawe reti jgk..
xbodo pok demo oyak kawe xreti nk present boh..
demo kecek sedap bena..supo nga hal ari 2..baca balik la sejarah wei..
pahtu sedap2 oyak ore bangga nga bm nk trnslte ko bi..
aku oyak gapo pasal bangga..mu oyak sbb hal minjam..phtu jadi hal nk trnslte plak..
gano gitu boh..demo kecek putar belit sngoti..men sedap jah oyak..
sbb demo sain kawe tbik dr forum ni..kata ore klate tp dok supo..
kuat bngga demo ni..ore slh cikit sedak semo ngata..jgn duk bngga gak kita mnusia..
samo r blako..klu bab present ni rmai ssain kawe blh present tp bi tunggang langgang lagi..
phtu mana demo oyak ore malu sbb xreti kecek bi..rmai jah xreti tp nk blh present..
ore mcm aku ore mcm aku..gapo gitu?????sedap ngata ko aku..
demo sedap kata kawe xreti present..taula demo pndai tp kawe blh jgk..
bukan po demo nganying kawe gitu..gano bereh dok kita boh??

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by haku on Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:23 am

hohoh..haah kn..pnas btol karpet neh...kne simbah air pnas kah???hee..sal isu nie..de laa bek ngn xbek dye...bse r...stiap mnde yg kte wat..bkan sume perfect...pas2..ppsmi nie bgus gak..help to improve english..mansuh pn..de hkmah jgak..so xde laa bdak2 trkial2 nk blaja math ngn science dlm b.i..so ntuk ak laa..ak xksah pn mansuh ker x..tpi klo da mansuh nie..hope krajaan pk kan method len ntuk tlg improve kn english nie..sbb..kte mmang maklum r..bdak2 mlayu nie specially.bler da kt umah..mmang jrang laa nk ckap english..so kt mne ag dorg nk mantapkn english..klo bkn kt skulah..jdik..ak hrap krajaan wat laa smthing ntuk gntikn ppsmi neh...

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by AspireMaster on Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:17 am

Kementerian Pelajaran akan mengambil 1,000 guru pakar dan terlatih subjek bahasa Inggeris dari Australia dan United Kingdom (UK) serta memperkenalkan semula subjek Kesusasteraan Inggeris di sekolah rendah dan menengah, mulai Januari depan....berita lanjuthttp://www.bharian.com.my/Wednesday/Nasional/20090714234730/Article/index_html


adakah nie utk backup pemansuhan PPSMI 2012 nanti..??

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by roxy on Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:20 am

xkesah r dowg nk guna bm ker bi..jgn tetibe mansuh g mandarin sdh..

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by rowanlim on Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:47 am

^If you talk like that then you offend Chinese people.

Everyone be friendly in this discussion. It's a hot thread so we should keep our heads cool.

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Re: PPSMI dimansuhkan 2012! ape kate anda???

Post by zultekmilennia on Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:14 pm

Urgh, damn. These walls of text are making my head hurts, Don't you guys know how to turn your ideas into points.Sheesh, I know you get excited when replying to others, but make it readable.

In short, tl;dr. Its just a waste to think that the government had any good reasons to stop PPMSI, its just something they do to gain favors. People say they don't agree (the parents, especially), but come election day, we'll see.

Hey, people believe in their kids, but they also know when their kids are idiots who can't actually grasp such a simple language. So, they do what they can to minimize their failures.

The thing is, there's a thing called a critical language learning period (look it up). Its in this time period that children can better absorb any language. Its still an hypothesis, but its plausible. They don't need to be directly taught, just hearing them from adults is sufficient.

There are cases where children who are abandoned and raised in the wild by animals (it happens) are found to have difficulty learning even simple manners, let alone language. These children are found well into their pre-teens years (some less) but the similarity is that they all can't grasp the notion of human language.

They say that after puberty, learning language becomes more difficult. Guess I was lucky spending my childhood in front of the tv instead of going to school (lived in JB, so got access to Singapore channels).

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